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Re: Solving a 4X4X4 Cube without Algorithms

Postby evans-rubix08912 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:03 pm

I'm even closer now: the whole 4x4x4 cube is solved, with the exception of two corner pieces (which are in the same layer but on opposite sides (diagonals)). Once I have solved the cube completely (if I do...), I may post my solution elsewhere, which will include some of the techniques and algorithms I have created/discovered. :idea:

Happy Cubing to all. :D :) ;)
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Re: Solving a 4X4X4 Cube without Algorithms

Postby evans-rubix08912 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:33 pm

Finally, I have solved it!.. after about two months or so (that it, with myself spending about an hour per week). As it happens, I have created an algorithm of my own along the way too; it is used for re-permutating and re-orientating corner pieces, especially when in sets of three. When in sets of three, I am able to reduce the total number of pieces unsolved to just two out of the whole cube.

So anyway, solving a 4x4x4 Rubik's cube without algorithms is definitely possible; If I can do it, then so can you. :idea:

Thanks for keeping up with this post. :D :) ;)
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Re: Solving a 4X4X4 Cube without Algorithms

Postby Zeotor » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:47 pm

Congratulations!

Are you going to try to solve any other cubes without algorithms now?
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Re: Solving a 4X4X4 Cube without Algorithms

Postby Sharkretriver » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:48 am

That's amazing! Can you post your steps used and algorithms that you discovered along the way?
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Re: Solving a 4X4X4 Cube without Algorithms

Postby evans-rubix08912 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:14 am

Without the slightest doubt, I will definitely try the other cubes... Most likely the 5x5x5 cube. But, In terms of posting my solution, I need to solve it a couple more times, to be 100% sure that my algorithms work; I am struggling a bit on my third attempt: pairing up the edges is turning out to be a hassle.

I'll update this post soon,
Thanks for keeping up to date! :D
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Re: Solving a 4X4X4 Cube without Algorithms

Postby evans-rubix08912 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:55 pm

As I have now discovered (on my third attempt at solving the 4x4x4 rubik's cube), the problem I have encountered is an Edge Parity. I have managed to solve the whole cube with the exception of two edge pieces which are permutated correctly but not orientated correctly; in other words, it is a pair of edges that have been flipped... somehow. The picture below shows you the arrangement my cube is in:
4x4x4 edge parity.jpg
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I have got no idea of how to fix this but, I will soon make the difficult attempt of trying to solve this, intuitively, of course. If I succeed, I will post the solution/algorithm on this post. Also, I am wondering how my 4x4x4 ended up in the arrangement in the first place; if you've got any ideas, please do post a reply.

Thanks for keeping up to date and Happy Cubing!
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Re: Solving a 4X4X4 Cube without Algorithms

Postby borginator2 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:27 pm

It's for posts EXACTLY like this that we have a whole forum just for solving puzzles. It's called "solutions". ;)

A 10 second glance will draw your attention to a thread called "How to fix parity on a 4x4 and 5x5", where you can find the solution in video form.

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5135

Please do check the forum for more than 1 second before asking for this sort of thing. :lol:
Please take off topic discussion off this forum. Thanks.
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Re: Solving a 4X4X4 Cube without Algorithms

Postby Sharkretriver » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:38 pm

I think it ended up like that in the first place because of the edge pairing step itself. I can't say anything more about that though.
Also, to solve it intuitively you can use more commutators! But I don't know how the actual speedsolving algorithm was made.
Good luck!
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Re: Solving a 4X4X4 Cube without Algorithms

Postby evans-rubix08912 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:41 pm

borginator2 wrote:It's for posts EXACTLY like this that we have a whole forum just for solving puzzles. It's called "solutions". ;)

A 10 second glance will draw your attention to a thread called "How to fix parity on a 4x4 and 5x5", where you can find the solution in video form.

I haven't used this forum to post or request solutions for solving a 4x4x4 rubik's cube; instead I have used it to make people aware of the ability to solve a Rubik's cube without cheating - therefore there are no algorithms mentioned by myself and if I ever do post any algorithms, I will put them in the Solutions section, respectively.

I hope that clears things up.
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